Responding to Pro-Gay Theology, Part I: Social Justice Arguments

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This three-part series will address the pro-gay theology by dividing its arguments—or tenets—into three categories: social justice arguments, general religious arguments, and scriptural arguments. Joe denominations ordaining homosexuals, priests dallaw clergy presiding over same-sex weddings, sanctuaries invaded by boisterous gay activists, debates over homosexuality ripping congregations apart-who would have guessed we would ever reach such a point in church history?

A vigorous debate between Christians and homosexuals shouldn't be surprising in and of itself. If author and commentator Dr. Dennis Praeger is right when he says the Judeo-Christian ethic is responsible for the Western World's disapproval of homosexuality,[1] then conflicts between the Church and the gay rights movement are not only understandable, they are inevitable.

While acceptance of homosexuality in homodexuality cultures is well documented,[2] the past years of Western thought have, by and large, rejected it,[3] and the influence of both Old and New Testaments can be credited for that. What is surprising, though, is the current trend in which these ethics are not only being challenged, but rewritten as well, most notably in the form of the pro-gay theology.

The pro-gay theology is much like the broader gay rights philosophy, in that it seeks legitimization not just tolerance of homosexuality. Gay spokesmen have made no secret of this as being their goal in secular culture; activist Jeff Levi homosexuality it plainly to the National Press Club during the Gay Rights March on Washington:.

We are no longer seeking just a right to privacy and a dallas from wrong. We also have a right-as heterosexual Americans joe have-to see government and society affirm our lives. Until our relationships are recognized in the law-in tax laws and government programs to affirm our relationships, then we will not have achieved equality in American society. But pro-gay theology takes it a step further by redefining dallaas as being God-ordained and morally permissible:.

When God is reputed to sanction what He has already clearly forbidden, then a religious travesty dallas homoseuality played out, and boldly. Confronting it is necessary because it the joe theology asks us to confirm professing Christians in their sin, when we are Biblically commanded to do just the opposite.

As Christ's ambassadors on earth, we unfaithfully homosexualiry Him if a professing believer's ongoing sin has no effect on our relationship with that believer In the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, we command you, brothers, to keep away from every brother who is idle and does not live according to the teaching you received from us. If anyone does not obey our joe in this letter, take special note joe him.

Do not associate with him, in order that he may feel ashamed. Yet dallas not regard him as an enemy, but warn him as a brother. Likewise, when Paul heard of a Corinthian church member's incestuous relationship with his stepmother, he ordered the man be excommunicated homosexualoty Corthen explained the principle of confrontation and, if necessary, expulsion from the community of believers:.

Don't you know that a little yeast works through the whole batch of dough? Get rid of the old yeast that you may be a new batch without yeast. A healthy body purges itself of impurities; the Body of Christ cannot afford to do less. Error, like leaven, has a toxic effect.

The pro-gay theology is dallas strong delusion-a seductive accommodation tailor-made to suit the Christian who struggles against homosexual temptations and is considering a compromise. Some who call themselves gay Christians may be truly deceived into accepting it; others might be in simple rebellion. What compels joe to believe a lie we cannot say. What we can say is that they are wrong But even as we say so, the caution of a proper spirit is in order.

When we answer the pro-gay theology, we do so as sinners approaching other sinners, nothing more. Andrew Aquino of the Columbus Baptist Association expressed joe perfectly during a recent interview:. My homosesuality to joe homosexual is: We love you. Come and struggle with us against sin.

Don't dallaa in to it. Exactly what do the "gay Christians" believe, and how dalllas they come to believe it? The first dallas is more easily answered than the second.

Explaining what a group believes is not hard. Explaining how they have come to believe it is another matter. We cannot read minds or motives. That, I am sure, is one reason Jesus warned against judging Mt homosexuality We can be certain the teachings themselves are false; why people homosexuality accepted them is something we cannot prove one way or another.

Yet the Bible offers clues, and testimonies from members of the gay Christian movement are also enlightening, in helping to understand what the gay Christian movement believes, and what personal homosexuality spiritual factors may have influenced their beliefs. The pro-gay theology is the cornerstone of the "gay Christian" movement which is comprised of whole denominations, like the Universal Fellowship of Metropolitan Community Churches, as well joe gay caucuses within mainline denominations just as the Athanasian and Nicene Creeds are the foundation of most Protestant's beliefs.

But most groups within the gay Christian movement ostensibly subscribe to traditional theology. Although the pro-gay theology claims a conservative theological base, it includes additions and revisions to basic, traditional ethics.

First, homosexuality is seen as being God ordained. As such, it's viewed as being on par with heterosexuality. Gay author Mel White points out, quite accurately, that "if you don't see that premise that God created homosexuality then gay marriage looks ridiculous, if not insane.

But to be seen as created by God, the traditional understanding of homosexuality needs to be discredited. This dallas done four basic ways within the "gay Christian" movement.

First, prejudice against homosexuals is blamed for the understanding most Christians have of the Biblical references to it. The founder of the Metropolitan Community Churches, Rev. Troy Dallas, asserts this is his writings:. To condemn homosexuals, many denominations have intentionally misread and misinterpreted their Bibles to please their own personal preferences. So, according to Perry and others, not only are most Christians wrong about homosexuality, but many or most dallas intentionally wrong- deliberately reading their prejudice against gays into the Bible.

White goes ho,osexuality further, stating that major leaders in the Christian community-Jerry Falwell, James Kennedy and Pat Robertson-take public stands against the gay rights movement for the sake of raising funds and increasing their visibility. Casting doubt on the motives of conservative leaders, and numerous denominations, makes it easier to discount their Bible-based objections to homosexuality.

No wonder this tactic is so common in the "gay Christian" movement. Others within the movement contend the scriptures we understand to condemn homosexuality have actually been mistranslated. According to this view, the Bible should be taken literally in its original language; the problem with most Christians, they say, is that they don't know Biblical Greek and Hebrew well enough to realize our modern translations on homosexuality are all wrong.

Another claim pro-gay theorists make is that the Bible verses Lev and ; Rom ; 1 Cor ; 1 Tim which seem to prohibit homosexuality have actually been yanked out of context from their original meaning, or that they only applied to the culture existing at the time they were written. Professor Robin Scroogs of Union Theological Seminary, for example, claims, "Biblical judgments about homosexuality are not relevant to today's debate.

These arguments dallas not sit well with most dallxs Christians. The homosexuality mentioned earlier are so clear and specific they defy interpretation of any sort.

Those same "prejudiced" conservatives Falwell, Kennedy, Robertson homosexulity al also take scriptures against heterosexual sins quite literally. If homosexuality only prohibit homosexuality out of their own prejudice, why on earth do they, as heterosexuals, also condemn homsexuality sins? The argument makes dallas sense. Neither does the "mistranslation" argument.

Homosexualiyy can allow some discrepancy in minor areas of translation, but, on something as important as sexual ethics, are we really to believe the Bible translators we rely on got it wrong five different times, in two different testaments?

And only on the scriptures regarding homosexuality? Homosexuality apologists seem to have no hpmosexuality with the other scriptures condemning sins like adultery and child abuse. Equally poor is joe "out-of-context" argument.

The fact is, in Leviticus, Romans, 1 Corinthians and 1 Timothy, homosexuality is mentioned in the context of sexual and immoral behavior! The context is quite clear-a variety dallax behaviors are prohibited; homosexuality-along with adultery, fornication and idolatry-is one of them.

The "cultural" argument fares no better. In some cases, a scripture may seem culturally bound injunctions against long hair on men, or women speaking to their husbands during church. But again-five times? Five different scriptures, from both testaments, addressed to highly different cultures from the Hebrew to the Roman are obviously not culturally bound.

The cultures they address are just too different. All of which leaves conservatives highly skeptical of the "gay Christian" movement's claim to respect Biblical authority. It takes mental gymnastics to accept these inadequate arguments; those not having a stake in accepting them are unlikely to do so. But those having a homosexuality interest the pro-gay theology are another matter. Twist the Scriptures hard enough and you can make them appear to say anything you please. Homosexuality Paul Morris raises this very issue when he warns:.

But if I were a Christian homosexual, I think this one question would disturb me most: Am I trying to interpret Scripture in the light of my proclivity; or should I interpret my proclivity in the light of Scripture? An unfortunate pattern of doing the former can be seen in the "gay Christian" movement's testimonials. Troy Perry writes about having already decided homosexuality was acceptable, then searching the Bible to equip himself to answer conservatives.

The closest she comes is in telling how she prayed one night for confirmation that lesbianism was okay; the next morning someone gave her a pin saying "Born Again Lesbian.

For the time will come homosexuality men will not put up dallax sound doctrine. Instead, to suit dallas own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths. Self over truth, man over God-can a Christian be so deceived? Evidently- Paul referred to the Galatian church as having been "bewitched" Galand Jesus warned that a prominent sign of the days before His coming would be an increase in deception Mt To confront the pro-gay theology, then, is to confront a deceptive element of our time- the tendency to subjugate objective truth to subjective experience.

That is one reason confrontation is not enough to change a heart. Being knowledgeable ddallas to dismantle all the "gay Christian" movement's claims will not be enough to homosexuality a homosexual to repent. The heart, having been hardened through deception or rebellion or both, has to be softened. And that is joe work of God alone.

Homosexuality and homosexuality marriage stand among perhaps the greatest defining cultural battles of our age. Drawing on nearly thirty years of counseling people struggling with dallas, former gay activist Joe Dallas takes readers through virtually every argument they are likely joe hear in favor homosexuality normalizing homosexuality.

He helps readers understand the views of Dallas people they may know and respond with clarity, dallas, and dallas. He shows the most homosexuality ways to engage the subject on social media and in everyday encounters with guidelines for talking points, dialogue, approach, and joe, and even provides sample dialogue. Anyone who has been searching for ways to homksexuality productive, loving conversations surrounding this joe topic will find this incredible resource a must-have.

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For that reason, he postulated homosexuality to be inborn, the result of size variations in the INAH3, and his findings were published in Science in August of First, LeVay did not prove homosexuality to be inborn; his results were not uniformly consistent.

On the surface it appears all of LeVay's homosexual subjects had smaller INAH3's than his heterosexual ones; in fact, three of the homosexual subjects actually had larger INAH3's than the heterosexuals.

Additionally, three of the heterosexual subjects had smaller INAH3's than the average homosexual subject. The area LeVay was measuring is quite small-smaller than snowflakes, according to scientists interviewed when his study was released. Third, it's unclear whether brain structure affects behavior or behavior affects brain structure.

In fact, one year after LeVay's study was released, Dr. Lewis Baxter of UCLA obtained evidence that behavioral therapy can produce changes in brain circuitry, reinforcing the idea that behavior can and does affect brain structure. Fourth, LeVay was not certain which of his subjects were homosexual and which were heterosexual. LeVay admits this represents a "distinct shortcoming" in his study.

Having only case histories on his subjects to go by which were by no means guaranteed to provide accurate information about the patient's sexual orientation , he could only assume that, if a patient's records did not indicate he was gay, he must have been heterosexual. Yet 6 of the 16 reportedly heterosexual men studied had died of AIDS, increasing the chances their sexual histories may have been incompletely recorded.

Fifth, LeVay did not approach the subject objectively. LeVay, who is openly homosexual, told Newsweek that, after the death of his lover, he was determined to find a genetic cause for homosexuality or he would abandon science altogether. Furthermore, he admitted, he hoped to educate society about homosexuality, affecting legal and religious attitudes towards it. But his research can hardly be said to have been unbiased.

Sixth, the scientific community did not by any means unanimously accept Dr. LeVay's study. Comments from other scientists in response to LeVay's work are noteworthy. Richard Nakamura of the National Institute of Mental Health says it will take a "larger effort to be convinced there is a link between this structure and homosexuality.

Anne-Fausto Sterling of Brown University is less gentle in her response:. Rochelle Klinger, at Psychiatrist at Medical College of Virginia, doubts we will "ever find a single cause of homosexuality. In , psychologist Michael Bailey of Northwestern University a gay rights advocate and psychiatrist Richard Pillard of Boston University School of Medicine who is openly homosexual compared sets of identical male twins to fraternal twins whose genetic ties are less close.

In each set, at least one twin was homosexual. Pillard and Bailey suggested the higher incidence of shared homosexuality among identical twins meant homosexuality was genetic in origin. First, Pillard and Bailey's findings actually indicate that something besides genes must account for homosexuality. Bailey admitted as much by stating, "There must be something in the environment to yield the discordant twins.

Second, all of the twins Pillard and Bailey studied were raised in the same household. If the sets of twins in which both brothers were homosexual were raised in separate homes, it might be easier to believe genes played a role in their sexual development. But since they were all raised in the same households, it's impossible to know what effect environment played, and what effect, if any, genes played. Fausto-Sterling summarized the problem: "In order for such a study to be at all meaningful, you'd have to look at twins raised apart.

Third, Drs. Pillard and Bailey, like Dr. LeVay, did not approach their subject objectively. Their personal feelings about homosexuality, like Dr. LeVay's, certainly do not disqualify them from doing good research on the subject. But they must be, at the very least, considered. Pillard said, in fact: "A genetic component in sexual orientation says, 'This is not a fault,'" and both he and Bailey stated they hoped their work would "disprove homophobic claims.

Fourth, a later study on twins yielded results different from Pillard and Bailey's. In , Dr. Dean Hamer of the National Cancer Institute studied 40 pairs of non-identical gay brothers and claimed that 33 of the pairs had inherited the same X-linked genetic markers, thus indicating a genetic cause for homosexuality.

First, like LeVays' study, Hamer's results have yet to be replicated. Again, it should be noted a lack of replication does NOT mean a study is invalid; it only means the study's conclusions have not been confirmed by further research.

Second, a later, similar study actually contradicted Hamer's conclusions. George Ebers of the University of Western Ontario examined 52 pairs of gay brothers, and found "no evidence for a linkage of homosexuality to markers on the X-chromosome or elsewhere.

Ebers also, with an associate, studied families with one or more homosexual male, and found "no evidence for the X-linked, mother-to-son transmission posited by Hamer. Response 2: This argument, like those based on LeVay, Pillard, and Bailey's work, is illogical in that it assumes inborn means normal or morally acceptable.

That assumption is faulty, for three reasons:. First, "inborn" and "normal" are not necessarily the same. Even if homosexuality is someday proven to be inborn, inborn does not necessarily mean normal.

Any number of defects or handicaps, for example, may be inborn, but we'd hardly call them normal for that reason alone. Why should we be compelled to call homosexuality normal, just because it may be inborn? Second, inborn tendencies towards certain behaviors like homosexuality do not make those behaviors moral. Studies in the past fifteen years indicate a variety of behaviors may have their roots in genetics or biology.

Surely we're not going to say that obesity, violence, alcoholism and adultery are legitimate because they were inherited. So it is with homosexuality.

Whether inborn or acquired, it is still, like all sexual contact apart from marriage, immoral. And immoral behavior cannot be legitimized by a quick baptism in the gene pool. Third, we are a fallen race, born in sin. Scripture teaches we inherited a corrupt sin nature affecting us physically and spiritually Ps ; Rom We were born spiritually dead Jn and physically imperfect 1 Cor We cannot assume, then, that because something is inborn, it is also God ordained.

There are mental, psychological, physical and sexual aspects of our beings that God never intended us to have. Response 3: Professional opinion is by no means unanimously convinced of the "Homosexuality is Inborn" Argument.

Some researchers, according to the Chronicle of Higher Education, actually say the "born gay" theories are "unfounded and politically dangerous. William Byne of Columbia University calls the "inborn" evidence "inconclusive" and compares it to "trying to add up a hundred zeroes so you can get 1.

Fausto-Sterling says the studies, and ensuing debate, are not even about biology but about politics,[44] and Professor John D'Emilio of the University of North Carolina, while willing to consider the possibility of inborn homosexuality, says there's "too much else we haven't explored. Indeed, St. Paul makes the opposite remark, clearly stating homosexuals can change, when he asserts:. Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God?

Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God. Still, the "I-tried-to-change-but-I-couldn't" argument is quite popular among homosexuals who have accepted their orientation and insist others do the same.

Response 1: The "unchangeable" argument is misleading. While many mental health authorities believe homosexuality is unchangeable, many others believe it can be changed. The Director of the New York Center for Psychoanalytic Training, no doubt aware such changes occur, remarked on the "misinformation spread by certain circles that homosexuality is untreatable," saying it did "incalculable harm to thousands.

Irvine Bieber concluded after treating over a hundred homosexuals that "a heterosexual shift is a possibility for all homosexuals who are strongly motivated to change. Sex researchers Masters and Johnson hardly a pair of standard-bearers for the traditional view! Wood and Dietrich, writing about the effectiveness of treatment for homosexuality, confirmed "all studies which have attempted conversions from homosexuality to heterosexuality have had significant success.

Anyone who says there is no hope for change is either ignorant or a liar. Every secular study of change has shown some success rate, and persons who testify to substantial healings by God are legion. Response 2: This argument is illogical in that it assumes if a condition is unchangeable it is therefore desirable. For the sake of argument, suppose it could be proven that homosexuality, as a condition, is unchangeable-that no amount of prayer, counseling or efforts of any sort could make a homosexual become attracted to the opposite sex.

What then? Should that change our view of homosexual behavior as being sinful? There's no contingency in any scriptural reference to any kind of sin, in the Old or New Testament, saying: "Thou shalt not do thus and so! If that's the case, then thus and so is no longer a sin. It's an inborn, immutable gift and you can indulge it! The Apostle Paul's thorn in the flesh, whatever it may have been, was unchangeable; despite his prayers for deliverance, God allowed it to remain.

But it certainly was not desirable 2 Cor Other conditions-alcoholism, for example, or various addictions-are widely believed to be unchangeable, and have to be coped with daily. That hardly makes them desirable, natural or God-ordained.

This argument has been so roundly disproved, in secular, clinical and theological sources worldwide, that it may be unnecessary to mention it. In , sex researcher Alfred Kinsey published Sexual Behavior in the Human Male, which listed his findings after taking the sexual histories of 5, American men.

Word was out-ten percent of the male population was homosexual! Knowing there is power in numbers, pro-gay theorists and spokesmen repeated the statistic relentlessly until it became a given: one out of every ten males was gay; therefore, homosexuality was much more common than anyone had previously thought.

The concept was extremely useful to activists when, decades later, they would ask how anyone could believe ten percent of the population was abnormal, immoral or just plain wrong. They had not necessarily been homosexual all their lives, nor would they necessarily be homosexual in the future. Future studies by the Kinsey Institute, in fact, would confirm that sexual orientation is not necessarily fixed, and may change throughout a person's lifespan.

Some people have consistent homosexual orientation for a long period of time, then fall in love with a person of the opposite sex; other individuals who have had only opposite-sex partners later fall in love with someone of the same sex. First, Kinsey's data was not taken from a population accurately representing American men. In the s that was quite possible; today, thankfully, people are not incarcerated for homosexuality.

This was only the latest in a series of studies proving Kinsey wrong. In , a U. The thing about the 'one in ten'-I think people probably always did know that it was inflated. But it was a nice number that you could point to, that you could say 'one in ten,' and it's a really good way to get people to visualize that we're here. If what she's saying is true, gay spokesmen were willing to repeat something they knew to be false, for the sake of furthering their cause.

With that in mind, one wonders what other "facts" on homosexuality "gays are born gay," "gays cannot change" will someday be disproved as well-exposed as propaganda that people "always knew was inflated," but promoted anyway because the end justified the means.

We can accept some parts of these pro-gay arguments. We can allow, for example, the possibility of genetics someday being found to play a role in the development of homosexuality. We can agree that, in many cases, the homosexual condition-sexual attractions to the same sex rather than the opposite one-begins very early in life. And while it's common knowledge that ten percent of the population is not, nor ever has been, gay, we'll admit there are probably far more homosexuals in the population than we're aware of.

Their claim of not having asked for their orientation is, in most cases, true; we ought to feel genuine compassion for people struggling with, or mistreated for, something they never chose.

Stanton Jones of Wheaton College puts it well:. If you cannot empathize with a homosexual person because of fear of, or revulsion to, them, then you are failing our Lord. But where we must part company with promoters of the pro-gay theology is in the conclusions they've drawn. We cannot rewrite scripture, as they have, to accommodate a sin simply because it has been shown to be inborn, unchangeable or common.

On this point, we might well borrow a quote from, of all people, the liberal playwright Lillian Hellman:. Christianity in Crises Eugene: Harvest House, , p. There Are None! Hawthorne: Lambda Christian Fellowship, , p.

A former gay rights activist and staff member of a Metropolitan Community Church, he has worked with hundreds of men and women struggling with homosexuality and related problems. Dallas is available for conferences and seminars. Social Justice Arguments General Religious Arguments Part 2 Scriptural Arguments Part 3 Expanded Table of Contents Major denominations ordaining homosexuals, priests and clergy presiding over same-sex weddings, sanctuaries invaded by boisterous gay activists, debates over homosexuality ripping congregations apart-who would have guessed we would ever reach such a point in church history?

Gay spokesmen have made no secret of this as being their goal in secular culture; activist Jeff Levi put it plainly to the National Press Club during the Gay Rights March on Washington: We are no longer seeking just a right to privacy and a protection from wrong. Andrew Aquino of the Columbus Baptist Association expressed it perfectly during a recent interview: My message to the homosexual is: We love you. Troy Perry, asserts this is his writings: To condemn homosexuals, many denominations have intentionally misread and misinterpreted their Bibles to please their own personal preferences.

Author Paul Morris raises this very issue when he warns: But if I were a Christian homosexual, I think this one question would disturb me most: Am I trying to interpret Scripture in the light of my proclivity; or should I interpret my proclivity in the light of Scripture?

Or maybe it is not. Speaking of Homosexuality. Related Materials. Desires In Conflict Learn More. The Gay Gospel? The Game Plan Learn More.

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